Most of you know that I am a Mets fan. In fact, I’m that person that when something Mets-related happens, people tell me later, “You know, I thought of you when such-and-such happened.”
What most of you might not know is that I am a season ticket holder. I have been since mid-season 2006. I was going to so many games, that it made sense for me to invest in it then, since it was evident they were making the playoffs.
I held onto them in 2007 and in 2008, the big carrot dangle was guaranteed seats in CitiField, which opened in 2009.
None of this is probably “news” to you. But in 2009, I invested in Promenade seats. I wasn’t given much of a choice because it was either there or $9000/seat in the Excelsior level. Yeah, no thanks!!
When the Mets didn’t perform and fell off a cliff that year, the Mets’ form of an apology was to lower ticket prices, and I actually was able to invest in field level seats (outfield level, but still, I could market them as field level and have a pretty decent resale value).
Each year since 2009, the Mets ticket sales folks have worked to lower ticket prices, but also make the experience more enjoyable for the fan overall by instituting some things as “Amazin Mets Perks,” which got me to take the field with a player (perhaps you’ve heard me talk about my ass being on Scott Hairston’s wikipedia page) and I also got to take the field during batting practice.

My ass might be on Scott Hairston’s Wikipedia page, but I got on the field because of my status as a season ticket holder. Photo credit by Sharon Chapman.
This year, I got a customized Niese jersey for being a plan holder.
This year, 2012, was also the lowest price I’ve paid for Mets season tickets since CitiField opened, but also since my Shea days when I had seats on the Mezzanine level.
As the saying goes, it’s no secret the ticketing department has been selling ice to Eskimos where Mets tickets are concerned.
Yet this year was interesting. The Mets got off to a rollicking start, and it was announced that the All-Star Game would be held at CitiField in 2013, possibly the worst-kept secret in, well, the universe really.
So I guess it wasn’t a huge surprise that I got a notification from the sales department and my ticket rep, whom I have a very good relationship with, that in order to secure your seat with the All-Star Game, you would require a $250 deposit per seat per account. The kicker, though, being “the deposit goes towards your 2013 seats” and “2012 Mets Full Season Ticket Holders who commit to 2013 Full Season Tickets by taking advantage of this offer by July 10, 2012 will lock in 2012 season ticket pricing for the 2013 season.”
Uh, hello, that’s not only a “no-brainer…” Hell it was a YES brainer! Of course, I want to hold onto my season tickets for not only personal reasons but also to cash in on the All-Star Game festivities. But locking in my price now for 2013? Man, that’s just icing on the mother f’ing cake.
I paid the $500 (since I have two seats) deposit by the deadline and figured I’d be good to go.
Now over the years, the Mets’ ticketing department has come under fire for a few reasons, one of which is their invoice due date each year being around Christmas time. If I remember correctly prior to the 2008 season, invoices were due around January 15. Don’t quote me on that, but I’m pretty sure of it. Yet, after the flailing at the end of 2008 and the opening of CitiField, they leaned on the ticket plan holders for early payment. Some people complained that it was “too close” to the holidays. For me, though, I guess it didn’t bother me as much personally. I kinda figured, you know, that people are usually monetarily wounded around the holidays, what’s the difference a month makes? (Of course they required back then to pay in full, now there are payment options).
I think another thing is the timing. The Mets just came off two years of narrowly missing the playoffs. How DARE they ask us for money when we’re still in mourning?
Since 2009 though things have marginally gotten better, with the institution of the perks program, and making the season ticket and partial plan holders a part of the family. As well they should. That was probably my biggest complaint at the time, was that season ticket holders were taken for granted. I would say a big change in the philosophy of the department happened when Leigh Castergine took over for longtime Mets fixture Bill Iannicello.
But now, I’m seeing some shades of previous Met establishments, and I’m not liking it.
Go back to what I said about locking in prices for 2013 seats by putting a deposit down on your account. There were two things there: the All-Star game and 2013 tickets. I get that you should have a plan to be able to reap the rewards for the game, and I have no problem with that. But last week, plan holders were sent an email about putting yet ANOTHER deposit down by AUGUST 31st (meaning: like 17 days from now). A minimum 20%, and as my ticket rep explained, the next payment wouldn’t kick in till October.
Either the first email was in error about locking in prices by opting for the deposit in July, OR they’re just conveniently forgetting they told some fans this. I mean, I can’t be the only season ticket who was verbally told this, emailed this AND given this new email that’s all passive-aggressive. “Deadline? Oh, this deadline? Of course, that’s new.” (Oh, and before I forget to mention, we were encouraged to put a deposit down, even in the event that ticket prices were lowered in 2013 we would get that new price. But promised it wouldn’t go higher).
Normally, I wouldn’t give a shit. But the pricing is very essential for 2013 for me. For one, each year since I’ve been at CitiField has resulted in me having a lower ticket price AND (something they didn’t do before) is give season ticket holders a discount over the regular cost of a seat to compensate for those days we have to eat tickets or sell below face. Now, while I was pleased with that revelation, I shouldn’t applaud the Mets for simply doing what other sports and teams have done since the flood. They needed to do what they could to keep us happy. I get that.
Don’t tell your most loyal fans that by putting a deposit on your seats in July for games that won’t happen for at least another nine months will guarantee a price lock, then say, “Oh that whole thing, we’re forfeiting that and you have to give us another deposit in less than a month.”
Pardon me if I tell you to kiss my pucker. I’m pretty upset about this.
In years past, I will acknowledge that the Mets have done the right thing by treating their season ticket holders better, giving them more perks and making us more appreciated. Each year, the Mets have fallen far from expectation, and each year as a courtesy our ticket prices have been lowered. In the meantime, would it KILL them to keep ticket prices steady for a year? Let’s be fair: we know this money isn’t going to be used to improve the team any time soon.
And what’s worse is this whole not-so-much-of-a-warning that your prices may go up if you don’t give into their extortion deposit demands.
Your loyal customers.
Your loyal fans.
For what? Because we’re riding high on euphoria for having the first no-hitter in Mets history? Because R.A. Dickey may win the Cy Young this year? Because you really prepared yourself with a backup catcher this year? Oh wait, that didn’t happen. Mostly, it’s due to the All-Star Game in 2013. Fine. I didn’t mind giving that deposit. But what I do mind is that I was told one thing, now I’m being told something IN ADDITION to that.
Hell, if I had known I would have to lock in my 2013 prices with or without the stupid $250 deposit, I might have been more okay with it.
I know these are total First World Problems, and most of you could give a shit about my status as a season ticket holder. But this isn’t just me we’re talking about. We’re talking about loyal fans who were probably told one thing, and thought one thing, only to have something blindside them.
Over the years, the Mets have ridden goodwill into the ground with their loyal fan base. In the 1980s, it was due to the 1986 championship. When the Mets were shitty, they did everything in their power to bring us back with different promotions. When the team did well in the late 1990s, the Mets rode for years that goodwill in the form of ticket prices. Only to see the team falter again. But oh look! The year 2006 came along, and once again, ticket plan holders were taken for granted by locking us in again.
The last four years have been a real test, I have to believe. The owners, despite what we may or may not know intimately about the financial situation, clearly are not in a position to freely spend. I’m actually okay with that overall, but the reality is if you see what’s going on in LA after their owners were bankrupt and driven out of baseball, they’re spending and making investments in the team. Makes me wonder what would happen if MLB actually intervened. Maybe then we’d have a good team.
But I digress. In the meantime, they’ve really had to suck up to us and do everything in their power to bring us back. I’m paying nearly 50% less than my final season at Shea Stadium now for better seats in a nicer stadium. I can’t complain about that.
My point is, now that the Mets are doing marginally well, they’re technically allowed to ask more of us as fans. Because they can.
What I can complain about is the blatant advantage taking by the Mets ticket people of their season ticket holders. As I like to say when the Mets are down 6-0 in the bottom of the 5th: they got us where where they want us.
What am I supposed to do here? Not pay by the deadline, and risk my ticket prices going up? When the original plan was that the deposit essentially said that I’m locked in? Because I wasn’t prepared for this. Now, I have interested partners in my ticket plan, and I’m appreciative of their offer, but that’s not the point.
I feel used. The Mets played me. They drew me in by treating me well and giving me nice things only to shit all over it because they can.
I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Excellent read, Coop.
While I’m not a season ticket holder, I’d be just as pissed off at this as you seem to be. In fact knowing me, I’d demand an explanation, even if I were prepared to put down the second deposit.
Sounds to me like someone screwed up. Because I have a hard time believing they’d ask for that second deposit – after asking for the first – and believing fans are too stupid to pick up on just what you did.
‘Makes me wonder what would happen if MLB actually intervened. Maybe then we’d have a good team.’
In regards to this……maybe we’d have a better team if Selig didn’t intervene to begin with. Wilpons probably would have been forced to sell b/c without that 25 MIL loan from MLB – one they couldn’t pay back in the original 12 months as expected – and the 40 MIL bridge loan to get them to minority investors – we might very well have new owners who can actually afford to own a MLB team.
Ah, what could have been….
Excellent read, Coop.
I’m not a season ticket holder but I think I’d be just as pissed off as you are. In fact, even if I were prepared to leave the second deposit, I’d demand an explanation.
I’d have to think someone screwed up. Otherwise, the only other explanation is they’re actually thinking Met fans are just too stupid to notice. Either way, whoever is running that office is the stupid one and should be looking for a new job.
‘Makes me wonder what would happen if MLB actually intervened. Maybe then we’d have a good team.’
Actually if Selig didn’t intervene maybe we’d be in far better shape. If not for the 25 MIL loan from MLB – one they couldn’t even manage to pay back in the original 12 months it was due – and the allowance for the 40 MIL bridge load to get them to minority investors, the Wilpons would have probably been forced to sell. Then maybe we’d have ownership who could actually afford to own a MLB team.
I have to wonder if maybe we were told in error that the deposit would lock in our prices, but still I have the documentation that supports that this was told to me previously. The biggest disconnect is the 20% deposit due by August 31. If they were up front about that back in July – or one or the other – it would be more palatable. I hated bringing up the finances but somehow, I have to believe that the season ticket holders are once again holding the bag when it comes to this team. It’s a vicious cycle really, and they’re not going anywhere.
Sorry….both those comments above are mine. For some reason, I couldn’t get the first one to post so signed into word press for the second. Obviously, they both posted….even if they’re not exactly worded the same.
And that was my point…..they did tell you (and you can prove it) that the first deposit would lock up those prices. So even though you’d probably get some spin job….I know if that were me, I’d be making them give me some explanation.
Last thing they want to do is alienate you season ticket holders. They’ve got enough problems with revenues….